Wigwam - guestbook

Name :	Upi, Patela
Message :	Kuka sen paremmin tietää kuin tekstin kirjoittaja ite, lainasinko Juicelta, lauloinko Ditrichistä, tuliko hätäpaska vai kirjoitinko tosissaan. Sitten kerkiää arvuutella, kun äijistä aika jättää...Eli kerätkää faktat talteen,kun vielä voitte.
	03/02/08 13:15

Message :	Aattelin pirauttaa Jimille ja Rekulle ja kysäistä, että miksi pistitte Dark Albumille aivan täysin paskan avusraidan.
	03/02/08 11:49

Name :	Suonna
Message :	Täh, siis lyriikoista ei voi keskustella tekstilähtöisesti, vaan lauluntekijän sana on ainut totuus... Merkillinen asenne.
	03/02/08 10:30

Name :	Upi, Patela
Message :	Jore,tuntuu tajunneen idean....eli kysykää suoraan...niinkauan kuin ovat elossa...sen jälkeen voitte käydä Oh Marlene-kaltaiset keskustelut...
	02/02/08 23:55

Name :	Tenu
Message :	Gary Mooren blues video (dust my broom raiskauksineen) on karmeata katseltavaa. Yhtä karmeata oli se 80-luvun alun hevi yritelmä. Kyllähän mies täytti paikkansa Thin Lizzyssä ja aiemmin mm. Colosseum II:ssa, mutta sittemmin meni kai sekaisin...
	02/02/08 20:31

Name :	the Tanskalainen
Message :	I don't feel I am the right person to approach Walli about this. To be fair to him, it should be done by someone who is more objective about the issue.
	02/02/08 18:45

Name :	Jore
Message :	I wonder this kind of conversation of Hasse Walli. Ask Hasse directly: Email: hasse@hassewalli.com
	02/02/08 16:33

Name :	the Tanskalainen
Message :	Kalzu, sorry but you really have to reveal yourself more and divulge your source if you want to convince me. All I can say is listen to the records. Nikke Nikamo wasn't exactly the world's most versatile guitarist at this point so how can he possibly have played two guitar solos that sound completely different from his own style and EXACTLY like Hasse Walli at the time? The fact that Walli was present in the studio as 'supervisor' to me says it all. The only other explanation would be that this 'supervision' consisted of simply telling Nikamo exactly what and how to play; but that would have taken hours and hours, and even then I doubt it could have happened unless by some kind of miracle. That's not knocking Nikamo, because I'm a pretty experienced guitarist myself and I could not have done it, not because the solos are particularly good, but because the style and sound is so unique for Walli. Instead, for Hasse Walli to just step in and play would have taken a matter of minutes and makes a lot more sense. Remember, such procedures were very much the common practice at the time; even the Beatles did it frequently. It was also the practice not to tell anyone about the use of session players, as it would be hurtful to the band's image. In fact, sometimes the band members didn't even know it happened, because the producers would overdub session players without their knowing it. For instance, when 'A Whiter Shade of Pale' came out, Bobby Harrison, who was the drummer at the time, thought it was a recording where he played the drums. He was surprised he had been so good - until he found out it was really a session drummer called Bill Eyden! Likewise, when I wrote my book about the Zombies I listened hard and found overdubbed drums on many of the early tracks, not just 'She's Not There' (as is commonly known). The band were very surprised when I told them this, but they went back and listened carefully, too, and had to admit that I was right - thirty years after the event! So where does this get us, all in all?
	02/02/08 14:15

Name :	Kalzu
Current favourite song :	Cheap Evening Return
Message :	tanskalainen, HW never played a note on any Wigwam record. I have this on good authority.
	02/02/08 01:05

Message :	Dave Lindholm sanoi viime syyskuussa radiossa, että v 2008 alussa häneltä tulee jotain yllättävää. Mitähän se voisi olla ?
	01/02/08 21:24

Name :	Upi, Patela
Message :	Erikoista keskustelua Oh Malenesta. Sen ymmärtäisi, jos tekijä olisi kuollut, mutta kun ovat vielä elossa. Eli luuri käteen ja kysykää Jim Pembrokesta. Vähän sama juttu, kun oululaisen Barchelors-yhtyeen ukot väittivät, että Markku Veijalainen oli pyytänyt heitä lämppäröimään Rolling Stonesia 1960-luvulla Poriin. Totuushan selvisi, kun soitin Veijalaiselle, joka suoralta kädeltä tyrmäsi jutun pelkäksi valheeksi.
	01/02/08 20:48

Name :	EsaJii
Message :	I am pretty sure Nikke played the parts. There are some stories in Mikko's book, I think, of Nikke squeezing out the novel solo on Luulosiaras. But it does sound a bit too polished on Must Be The Devil, maybe some help there. arranging.
	01/02/08 19:52

Name :	Claes Johansen
Message :	I've started on my analysis of the first Wigwam single now, and it strikes me that the guitar solos on both sides sound nothing like Nikke Nikamo at the time. Instead, they sound exactly like Hasse Walli did on the Blues Section records. Funnily, Walli is credited as 'supervisor' on those recordings. I feel ninety-something percent sure he must have stepped in and done those solos. Any opinions on the matter out there?
	01/02/08 15:03

Name :	the Tanskalainen
Message :	You may be right. I don't know Leskinen's record, but I've noticed that JP sometimes can be quite 'directly inspired'. For instance, bits of the lyric on 'Earring is Believing' reminds me of a track from David Cousin's solo album 'Two Weeks Last Summer' (forgot the title of the song, don't have the record any more). In a way, he precedes people like Paul Weller and Elvis Costello here, never afraid to borrow from others. However, JP always manages to turn it into something completely unique - let's face it, the guy it a genious, and that is not a term I use lightly. (Incidentally, the other two above mentioned gentlemen are quite good, as well!) Terveisin ...
	30/01/08 00:38

Name :	Suonna
Message :	"...and then remain silent for decades", hey Tanskalainen, are you talking about one Finnish prog band whose name I've seen mentioned sometimes in this Guestbook... I think Jim picked up Marlene D. just because he was toying with Leskinen's song and didn't want to solve this puzzle too lazily. Of course one could think what it means that a Finnish boy is dreaming of an American lady and a Brit turns his head towards Germany.
	29/01/08 22:17

Name :	President Evil
Message :	In my opinion, there are lyrically similarities when comparing Juice's Marilyn to The Who's Pictures of Lily. In both songs a teenager boy is one-sidedly attracted (and eh... masturbating) to a woman. Please feel free to comment this brilliant revelation...
	29/01/08 18:08

Name :	Suonna
Message :	Täällä on aina tuunattu! Pimp your Roston!
	29/01/08 09:42

Name :	Jouko, Kerava
Message :	Joo, Roston oli Kauppakeskus Oy:n oma huopahattumerkki, josta kapinalliset nuoret väänsivät höyryn voimalla itselleen lättähatut. Oikeanmallisia nimittäin ei ollut myynnissä. Nuorisomuotia vastustettiin tehtailijoiden toimesta, toisin kuin nyt.
	29/01/08 00:18

Name :	Claes Johansen
Message :	I wonder what exactly made JP choose Marlene Dietrich as a subject for the song. Of course, the idea of retiring at the peak of your success and then remain silent for decades is a very Finnish thing to do, in a way. Just think of Sibelius and Linna, to name but two.
	29/01/08 00:16

Name :	Mikko
Message :	Must have been this: Author(s): Zolotow, Maurice Title: Marilyn Monroen elämä / Maurice Zolotow ; suom. Kari Sajavaara Published: Helsinki : Otava , 1964 (Keuruu) Material: 422, [1] s., 8 kuval. : kuv. Series: (Kompassi-kirja)
	28/01/08 21:54

Name :	Suonna
Current favourite song :	Marilyn Monroe: I'm just a little girl from Little Rock
Message :	Roston was a hat brand used by Finnish young males in the 50's/60's, "Roston hat swinging on my greased hairdo" that is. I've read some MM biografies 10-15 years ago (does every generation have a crush on her :-) and came across one released in Finland in the 60's or early 70's where the word "puuterihuisku" was used. That sure was inspiration for Leskinen's lyric, you don't see that word used too often. Nice topic, everyone? :-)
	28/01/08 21:25

Name :	EsaJii
Message :	Claes, the Juice song is just a teenage boy having a crush on a film star. The song is centered more on the boy than the star. The setting describes the youth: "Olin nuori ja keuhkoissa kirveli Boston prylglemikutreilla keikkui roston Sä olit mun nainen, nainen Marilyn. I have no idea what roston is, but he descibes his first cigarettes and slicked down greasy hair.
	28/01/08 20:34

Name :	Claes Johansen
Message :	I did mean 'inspired' in a broader sense. But as far as I recall there was a pretty general posthumous infatuation with Marilyn Monroe around this time. I particularly remember one classmate you was nuts about her. Also, the whole 'star phenomenon' was an inspiration to many rock musicians, who were then becoming stars themselves, or dreaming of it.
	28/01/08 19:18

Name :	Suonna
Message :	Hmm, interesting guess. I googled Candle's lyrics and no, I don't think there's anything Leskinen borrowed from there. While Elton John sings "Goodbye Norma Jean / From the young man in the 22nd row / Who sees you as something as more than sexual / More than just our Marilyn Monroe" Leskinen is inspired by Marilyn's sex appeal with no excuses. Candle In The Wind seems to have been released in 1973 so of course Leskinen could have used it as an inspiration.
	28/01/08 16:37

Name :	the Tanskalainen
Current favourite song :	Borodin String Quartet No. 2
Message :	Thanks for the reactions. Could Leskinen be equally inspired by Elton John's 'Candle In The Wind'? I always assumed Pembroke's lyric was about Marlene Dietrich, but on a broader level also about any kind of similar infatuation. Incredible energy in the rhythm of the lyric, you can hear they guy is obsessed. Thanks to Seppo for the offer, my e-mail address is above.
	28/01/08 16:16